In this episode, one of David's closest friends, Logan Rosenbalm interviews David on writing his new book, For Love with Joy. They talk through the storyline of the book and its focus on grief, the fears and challenges David faced writing the book, how he walked through his own grief and how leaders can connect with people who are grieving. This conversation is a different pace from the usual LeaderGrowth podcasts. Listen in on this honest, vulnerable conversation.